I had a call this morning from one of our very talented staff nurses who wanted to check out carefully her understanding of when it is appropriate to send a sample for urine in a catheterised patient. She explained that she had an elderly patient and the patients daughter had suggested that the catheter urine should be sent to our laboratory on a weekly basis to check for infection.
The patient did not have any symptoms or signs to suggest urinary infection and had therefore advised that sampling was inappropriate but was facing a series of questions and could I help with some of the reasoning behind this approach. As a result, I thought I had been rather quiet of late on here and it would be a useful to present the details to the wider public and professional audiences.
Complexity Management Rules:
In a previous post, I discussed the change of direction the health board had adopted for all aspects of healthcare associated infection: a clear need to take infection prevention and control to primary care as well as maintaining secondary care activities. The health board paper discussed using a complexity science approach to healthcare associated infection. We use two simple, but sometimes conflicting rules to guide us:
- Rule 1: First do no harm
- Rule 2: Seek and take the positive action
I’ve discussed this in more depth in an earlier article,
The decision to use any medial device should never be taken lightly. Any medical device will cause harm, even if that is only minor by way of pain or discomfort (my face always cringes at the thought of someone passing a silicone rubber tube up my urethra!) However, if my prostate had enlarged and was cutting of my ability to pee, I would be in a pretty sorry state and rule two would clearly allow someone to put me out of my misery by inserting a catheter. These two rules as the illustration above shows, are in conflict. The positive action in response to urinary retention is to insert a catheter. However, the decision should be regularly reviewed and where possible, the medical device removed so that the normal body defences are not breached.
The longer a urinary catheter is in place, the more likely it will become colonised with bacteria. A scientific paper I read a very long time ago advised that 10% of catheters will become colonised per day. This means that the longer a person has a catheter in place, the more likely we will find bacteria in the urine and by 10 days, virtually every catheter will be colonized. However, that does not mean the catheter has to come out. People tolerate bacteria in their urine and this is not an unusual finding in older people, as previously discussed. In the younger population, colonisation is less common but may occur.
The microbiological conundrum
The microbiology laboratory does not diagnose infection. This is what seems counter-intuitive to many people until they have been introduced to the sort of discussion we are having today. The diagnosis of infection can only be made by an assessment of the symptoms and signs a person may be exhibiting, with the different laboratories (biochemical, haematological and microbiological) offering support in making the diagnosis. With that in mind and taking on board that many urine samples from a catheter specimen of urine will contain bacteria, we have a standard report comment we use if there are no clinical symptoms or signs described on the request form:
“23/06/2017 Dr M D Simmons: The clinical details are non specific and do not describe any clinical signs of urinary infection. Bacteruria is a common feature of catheter use and normally represents colonisation. These bacteria will give positive dipstick results and underlines why dipstick testing is of little value in catheterised patients. By default sensitivities are always supressed and if there is a clinical indication for antibiotics, you will need to contact the on-call consultant microbiologist. “ |
Why are we so concerned about this issue?
Anecdotally, we were picking up accounts of patients receiving antibiotics inappropriately simply because our results included sensitivities. This was being read by some as an instruction to prescribe. Nothing could be further from the truth. We as microbiologists cannot possibly know which persons require antibiotics and which do not unless we have had a clinical conversation that clarifies the clinical picture.
Antibiotics break “Rule 1” above: by default antibiotics cause harm. They do this by killing normal bacteria that we spend our lives with and in so doing, will select for increasingly resistant bacteria. Therefore, if the nurse at the beginning of this article did send in an unnecessary urine sample and we inadvertently released a sensitivity, then the person in question might get prescribed an antibiotic, which would do harm by killing sensitive bacteria in their gastro-intestinal tract as well as some of the bacteria in their urine. This would then allow more resistant bacteria to take their place. I describe this as “getting on the resistance escalator,” which ultimately may lead to an infection which cannot be treated. This may be very bad news as infection is sometimes associated with premature death but may be avoided where we have effective antibiotics still available. This goes to the heart of all the concerns being expressed about the need for antibiotic stewardship and it is important for all of us to beware of the risks to ourselves and the population in general of the overuse of antibiotics.
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What is the justification that even when clear clinical details are included on the request that are specific and clearly point to pyelonephritis, this standardised statement regarding CSU’s and asymptomatic bacteria is used anyway? Because for a handful of patients that practice is frankly dangerous. There are patients who’s complex conditions do not go by the text book and failing to recognise that absolutely does do harm. These patients are often very complex and are cared for by expert teams in major teaching hospitals, but the decisions and input of those specialist teams is continuously overlooked. Absolutely advocate for better antibiotic stewardship, but accept that not all patients fall into the same standardised scenario that you are describing.
When a patient ends up with a grossly hydronephrotic kidney, which has repeatedly been infected to a point where the kidney is so scarred that it has caused complete obstruction of the ureter and a loss of function to 20% and a nephrectomy highly likely, your sentiments above pale into insignificance. The lack of understanding or refusal to seek further clarification from expert teams put these patients at risk.
This sort of scenario puts patients at even more risk of antibiotic resistance because the lack of understanding and inappropriate advice that is given leads patients to use antibiotics inappropriately because they are forced to take short courses to try and keep symptomatic infection under control because they are worried about where treatment is going to come from for the next pyelonephritis that leads to urosepsis and the battle to be treated appropriately with a full course of antibiotics. This is actually starting to lead to significant resistance issues which have never been an issue until now.
It is vital to take this into account and actually work with and listen to GP’s and consultants to enable patients to be treated effectively. The unwillingness to heed the advice of expert teams isn’t appropriate in some cases. If you look back over a patients history and find that when being treated efficiently with the appropriate length of time antibiotic resistance was absolutely not an issue, but as soon as statements like the above get churned out of the lab despite describing symptoms in the clinical details, resistant bacteria has become a huge issue.
A patient who has lost a significant amount of renal function and with major complex reconstruction or losing the kidney completely on the cards as a result of lack of understanding or recognition that there are some patients who go completely against the textbook on the part of the microbiologist is a reality. Why is it that the decision of an MDT (including specialist microbiologists) at a major specialist center is completely overlooked and judgements made that are completely inaccurate.
Dr Mike Simmons says
Thank you for taking the time to respond in such detail. I completely agree with you and can reassure you that our process of narrative reporting takes into account the quality of clinical information provided on the request card that arrives with the specimen. Standard comments are only applied where the clinical detail is poor.
Our studies show that the quality of clinical information improves within 3 months of adding narrative comments into the report, responding to the complexity of the individual patient. Indeed, we are now talking in terms of narrative reporting as, “writing into the patients story.”
This post only gives a small detail; if you want to get a more informed view of the work, please go to the Bevan Commission adopt and spread website, where we give a much more detailed explanation: https://adopt-and-spread.bevancommission.info/narrative-reporting-in-microbiology/about-the-programme